What happened to Nagano Con?

[sarahpotz.livejournal.com]

Ok.. i hope this is ok.. if not.. please just go ahead and delete my post.. no need to comment.. it already understood.. thanks!

 i just coudln't stop thinking about it.. i just read in jeantler's blog website ARASHI that Jun and Nino got angry.. they wrote in their diary dated August 3, 2006. It's not translated though.. coz she said it was really upsetting.. but  now.. that made me even MORE curious about  what happened to the concert.. or what did the fans really do to make Jun and Nino angry.. i'm dying to know why..  and since the Game Nikki section in Binan no Nikki have no updates yet since July 28th.. i couldn't find anything related to this incident..

so.. anyone.. who could read kanji.. could you translate them to me?? onegai.. *begs*

oh and by the way, jeantler's ARASHI website is soooooo GREAT! i give my full credits to her for all the news she's been posting.. and translations.. definitely an UPDATE.  Arigato!!!

Comments

[isabelnecessary.livejournal.com]

i'm not entirely sure, but they're both saying that they were on the shinkansen or the bullet train and fans were being rude.

i just know they were talking about manners and being disappointed. even jun said he wouldn't wanna go to either nagano or on the shinkansen there in the future.

uhhh i suck but i tried. i guess we'll just have to wait until someone translates for real.

sorry for wasting your time.

but i pretty much got the same as what she said on the website:
to make a LONG story short, both wrote about how the fans went crazy at the nagano shinkansen.

[sarahpotz.livejournal.com]

thank you.. yeha i guess i'll just wait.. for anyone to translate them.. ty!

[acidae.livejournal.com]

...wow. Jun sounds so disappointed... he's pretty much going on and on about fans, and how he doesn't want his impression of their mostly polite/respectful fans to be ruined by a few exceptions. He wonders why people would be fully enjoying their music while in concert, then pester them elsewhere without any consideration. The next time he goes to Nagano, he wouldn't want to take the Shinkansen. But he doesn't want to dislike fans, especially when it's only because of such a small portion. He also asks people to please think about the consequences before hurting someone.

I'm not going to try a full translation, because I'm pretty much using an online translator to read the entries in Chinese, so I don't want to say anything that might have been interpreted the wrong way. If no one translates, though, I'll check on the Chinese forums tomorrow and see if it's been mentioned.

[sarahpotz.livejournal.com]

thank u! rabu rabu rabu! ahehehe.. yeah i guess i'll just wait.. and looking forward to it.. coz im itching to know what exactly they've said. i wish Himitse will update her post soon too..

but again.. thank u!

[fuwakyo.livejournal.com]

wow that is really disappointing..i think those fans were yawarakashi ( however you spell it .. those fans that go around hurting other johnny:s groups they detest.. most likely kattun fans.. yeah.. tha:s right.. jun did say :they probabaly weren:t our fans:....but yeha.. they were hassled on the platform to the shinkansen too wow.. so bad.. and its true.. you never hear jun saying bad stuff about fans.. so i:m thinking these have to be THe super obssessive and the agressive anti arashi fans.

so different to the blogs about osaka con eh\/

[sarahpotz.livejournal.com]

OMG! sooo mean! that's tooo personal already.. i mean im not into other JE fans but i couldn't do such a thing.. it's soooo rude >_

[fuwakyo.livejournal.com]

yeah.. its really sad.. but it seems like this was the only encounter that was negative for arashi thus far.. hopefully it won:t happen again.

[smaps.livejournal.com]

Just a question, but why does it have to specifically be KAT-TUN fans? I'm always hearing shit about Arashi fans going to KAT-TUN cons and pulling stuff and vice versa blah blah blah. Are people just creating animosity where there really isn't any or are there SERIOUSLY a bunch of KT/Arashi fans going way out of their way to bash the other group (...and why the hell did they randomly choose KAT-TUN and Arashi, anyways?)

[fuwakyo.livejournal.com]

nonono
IT IS A FACT.

if you search you can find their blogs.. they write and contrive plans to hurt arashi.. you know nino hurt his thumb along time ago.. those fans take credit for it.. they even discussed about bringing knifes to stab fans ... they threw things at aiba and were saying how stupid he was.. another fan went to sho:s con and said :fuck you: equivalent to him.. these fans are mad beacuse arashi and kattun are around the same age ( kattun more younger but they:re more jealous since arashi got to debut LONG AGO. the debut of kattun.. i believe was to finally let them go major and to hopfully stop this harrasment.. but i guess it still is going on.. but also.. these kind of fans are WITHIN the fans of arashi or kattun as well..]

specificallly for kattun.. like some fans ONLY LOVE kame.. others jin etc etc etc.. so they will harrass the memeber they hate..(earlier in the year, kame was harrased so much he broke down at a concert..)

as for arashi fans going to kattun.. i haven:t heard much of that.. maybe the younger fans/\ but arashi:s demographic is towards elder woman lol ) majority of the con goers i saw were.. mothers HAHAHAHA.and granny and youthful adolecents.. compared to kattun which are the crazy teens HAHA.. but this is the life of a fan in japan.. japanese fans.. are indeed the most insane and obsessive.

[aishoni.livejournal.com]

gomene to butt in
i'm not a fan of KATTUN but there's no need to bring up the fact about what their yarashiki fans did in the past AGAIN
it just create animosity within the fandom
just my two cent


not all arashi fans are angels, there are selfish obsessed fans that want the boys for themselves
minna san, please take the news as it is & learn from it

[imwahyou.livejournal.com]

Thank you for your comment. As a fan of both groups, I was starting to get distressed at the discussion going on here. x__x Because exactly as you said, it just creates animosity within the fandom. And.. ahh, our JE groups/boys should be things that make us happy, ne? n__n

[aishoni.livejournal.com]

yes, the boys should be the things that make us happy.
if they are happy, we are happy.

most of the fans are well behave considerate people. there's really no need to hate & brand all KATTUN fans for what the small group of stupid yarashiki did to our boys.

i think obsessiveness brings out the yarashiki in all of us.
remember that the boys are only human, they aren't our possesion.

[sarahpotz.livejournal.com]

thank you. well said.

well im just happy that beyond of these terrible esperiences our JE boyz (ALL) are still standing and going strong. i have to say they're tough.. very tough..

[smaps.livejournal.com]

I agree. It's been brought up really too many times, I shouldn't have brought it up again. I just wondered if it was all a dramatic ploy and there was some huge secret conspiracy between the two groups' fans or some general dumbass yarakashi that went crazy again for like the millionth time. Fangirls are craaaaaaaaazy.

[sarahpotz.livejournal.com]

OMG.. wow.. let's just bring Arashi international.. fans like us.. dont go obsessive.. we adore them.. (this is just me talking.. ahehehe..)

wow.. i thought it was just some kinda of play/joke before.. but but my gawd.. it is soo darn serious..

[sarahpotz.livejournal.com]

you know nino hurt his thumb along time ago.. those fans take credit for it.. they even discussed about bringing knifes to stab fans ...

the fans hurt Nino? was that the cause? KT fans attempted to stab Arashi fans?

[acidae.livejournal.com]

No, it was just an overzealous fan grabbing at Nino who caused the injury. That was all. :/

[sarahpotz.livejournal.com]

oh i see.. thanks for clearing that up..

[noesunexito.livejournal.com]

lol...
lol...
lol.......................

[sasukekun6.livejournal.com]

I don't get why some people do that dumb stuff. I'm an Arashi fan...they're my favorite JE band...but that doesn't mean that KAT-TUN sucks or something like that. I like a lot of JE bands...I just like Arashi a lot more than the others. XDDD

[fizzjizz.livejournal.com]

ive actually translated them x:

[sweetdude-v5.livejournal.com]

thank u jeantler for the translation~~

im really suprised that this things could happen and i could feel the embarrassment that arashi felt while sitting in that cabin with angry looks threw at them....

and you're right, the most dissappointing thing was how dissappointed they are with the fans..

hope this wont change their good impression on the other fans from nagano that were behaving just because some fans couldnt hold their excitement...

i really do feel sorry for arashi...

[sarahpotz.livejournal.com]

thank you.. thank you so much... ^^

[sarahpotz.livejournal.com]

hey there jeantler.. i love your website.. and i absolutely using your links.. i might have forgot sometimes.. and w/ that i'm guilty of.. so i just wanna say directly gomen nasai.. i'm sorry.. "paunmanhin" (my native language for sorry)i hope you're not referiing to me :( at your announcement in your blog..

thank you by the way for translating.. so much.. appreciate your work.. always..

[http://users.livejournal.com/sango_/]

I translated also for myself to know what they said but now that jeantler has already translated I won't post it, because there's no need! xD (and I'm not a native speaker of English so... I'm not 100% comfortable translating into it xD)

[http://users.livejournal.com/sango_/]

Oh, forgot sth. I really don't get it... why there are such fans, I know if I met Arashi I'll become crazy or sth but I don't know, I won't be disturbing them like that!! ¬¬ And other people too! Some Japanese girls seem so good girls but in fact they are not, it's like when you go to a live (I don't know if in a Johnny's live is the same but) and only because of being a foreigner they attack you!

[fizzjizz.livejournal.com]

it's because a lot of foreigners dont follow the rules in japan. such as not taking pictures or not recording their concert or not asking for their signature or all the other many rules there are in japan.

[http://users.livejournal.com/sango_/]

But I didn't do anything, and I was attacked by them! ¬¬ And maybe in Johnny's is like that, but I think that in the groups I'm talking about it's just because they don't like foreign people, just like that... and they don't like that they go overseas. I was not in "Johnny's world" when I was in Japan, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that only Johnny's has very strict rules... (of course you can't record any concert, Johnny's or not)

[imwahyou.livejournal.com]

Oh woah. That not asking for their signature thing- I've never heard of that. I'm curious~ Would you mind explaining, please? As in... if you were to see a JE boy on the street in Japan, you shouldn't ask for their signature? Or are you saying this is just at concerts?

[noesunexito.livejournal.com]

if you could copy and paste the japanese text to me i can translate it.

[sarahpotz.livejournal.com]

oh thank you.. but dont worry about it jaentler already did to her site http://arashi.vox.com but i really appreciate it sooo much.. can i contact you for future reference? just in case.. if you dont mind.. if you dont like.. i understand totally.. but then again thanks for offering to translate them to me.. thank u.

[noesunexito.livejournal.com]

i read hers and i don't know if i can really rely on it because it seems that she translates from a translation, which doubly loses the meaning. also, i'm going to be real it was pretty chingrish-tastic

[sarahpotz.livejournal.com]

oh really? oh ok.. that would be great then! i'd appreciate it very much.. thank u! do u still need the kanji? japanese langugae is not working in my computer at work.. so i couldn't give it to you..